Plum Crazy

"It's amazingly offensive. ... is that how we want to be known?"

You bet. That "we" ought to be making you feel a tad "icky", I'd think.

Spend a week reading Daily Kos. All the diaries. All the comments. That is absolutely how those people want to be known. But like Amanda Marcotte, they don't see it as being offensive, or as something they might later be held accountable for. THAT is the crux of the problem. And when that fear does creep in - there's alway sock puppets.

And by the way this stuff happens almost everywhere the internetz provides an anonymous (or at least physically, personally removed) avenue for "expression". One just sees it more frequently in the narcissistic echo chambers of the left-fringe.

Spend a week reading Daily Kos. All the diaries. All the comments. That is absolutely how those people want to be known. But like Amanda Marcotte

No. stop right there. Just stop. I have had it up to here with right-wingers who don't actually read lefty blogs telling people who do to go read Daily Kos. What you mean is, "Go cherry-pick all the lefties who offend me so you can come back and admit that I'm right."

Newsflash: You AREN'T right. Amanda isn't off making fun of the mentally ill. Amanda isn't off making fun of stay-at-home parents. Drum this through your thick skull: Amanda and Kos are not the same. I know it suits you to think they're the same, so you can drone on and on about the hateful left while utterly failing to do anything about policing your own side. It would suit me to have a million dollars, too.

This post got written. Tomorrow I can guarantee it at least one link from a lefty site. Posts about how maybe you shouldn't smear the citizens of New Orleans by equating them with the actions of a few looters don't get written on the right. Posts about how maybe you should be able to criticize Amanda Marcotte without using sexist innuendo don't get written on the right. Posts about how maybe you should strive to criticize people for what they say and do instead of for who they happen to be and what groups they identify with don't get written on the right.

You have cleanup on aisles 1-300 to do on your side, and you're gonna come over here and tsk-tsk? Fuck you. Go. Git 'er done, assface.

...have had it up to here with right-wingers...

No. Stop right there. Just stop. Aside from the fact that I support global liberal democracy, with all of its warts and all the effort required, I am about as far from a "right-winger" as you will find. So your little tantrum has completely missed its mark.

I have a news flash for you, sylvia: I meant precisely what I wrote, not the strawman you have fantasized (read: projected).

As for Marcotte, dKos and the rest, their stream of sophomoric vomitus speaks for itself. They fervently believe that statements like "Fuck you ... assface" should be taken seriously by the adults. And inasmuch as they (and you, obviously) believe they can spew such sewage and never be held accountable for it, they (and you, obviously) are exactly the same.

Meanwhile, your fantasies (read: projection) about the things that "don't get written [sic] on the right," (which you've either carefully or subconsciously couched in terms of the unprovable negative) indicates that you apparently don't actually read any of it. And if you do, you certainly don't comprehend it outside the context of the prosaic sludge surrounding the links that take you there. Perhaps if you weren't so busy fantasizing (read: projecting) "sexist innuendo" where it doesn't exist...

goy, let me see if I have this straight.

I write a post speaking out against a certain type of behavior.

You come, read that post, and respond only by attempting to shame me because some other people, on a blog I don't even read regularly (Daily Kos), have engaged in the behavior I spoke out against. Not only that, but you attempt to shame me for that on the very post in which I spoke out against that behavior.

I don't think so. I have never engaged in that behavior myself. I have spoken out against it. I am not responsible for what anyone who isn't me has done, and I reject totally your attempt to shame me by association.

As for your referring to Ilyka's comment as a "tantrum," consider your own behavior here before you go implying someone else has behaved in a juvenile fashion (children throw tantrums). Further, unless you know something I don't, Ilyka's name isn't Sylvia. If you don't wish to refer to someone by their chosen moniker, I'd ask you to not respond to them on my blog at all. You have your own blog on which you're absolutely free to say anything you please.

Lastly, re: your comment about Ilyka not reading right-wing blogs (which, btw, she absolutely does), I suggest you don't read a lot of progressive blogs either. Certainly not the majority of the ones Ilyka and I read, on which you'll find a lot of people speaking out against the type of behavior I spoke out against here. Mote. Beam. Eye.

No Lesley, you don't have it quite straight yet.

Did you simply skip over the words "those people" and "they"?

You're not responsible for what anyone who isn't you has done, yet you chose to associate yourself with that behavior by using the term "we" in your post.

Your choice.

I, however, rejected that association in my comment by using the terms "those people" and "they." As such, my intent couldn't possibly have been any clearer. So your choice to read my comment as shaming you, when I clearly was not, is something only you can explain.

As for your cohort, yes, "Fuck you ... assface", dripping sarcasm, hysterical, erroneous assumptions and finger-pointing in the opposite direction from where this particular problem is rooted qualifies as a tantrum. The question is - is she part of your "we" or part of "those people"?

Your choice.

Goy, perhaps you fail to understand reality. Words like "Fuck you ... assface" are not harmful. Just ignore them if you don't like it.

whig, perhaps you fail to understand courtesy, civility and maturity. Phrases like "Fuck you ... assface" represent vulgarity, profanity and hostility. Just keep using them if you never want to be taken seriously.

Oh wait... maybe you meant "reality" as defined by the so-called "reality-based".

More on this phenomenon here.

But really, who's counting? ;-)

I'm going to point out here that my blog should make it fairly obvious that I'm a New Yorker. My views on cursing are so colored.

In other words, I don't think it's a fucking big deal. I think that outing pseudonymous bloggers or making fun of people who take psychiatric meds is way, way, way worse.